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Wikia Search (Alpha) Online
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msg:3542085
 12:08 pm on Jan 7, 2008 (gmt 0)

As discussed last week, Wikia Search (Alpha) is now running at:

[alpha.search.wikia.com...]

Right now, the most important thing you can do is help with the "miniarticles" that appear at the top of popular search terms.

[alpha.search.wikia.com...]

[webmasterworld.com...]

 

skweb




msg:3544008
 3:04 pm on Jan 9, 2008 (gmt 0)

I wonder that if Microsoft and Yahoo couldn't come up with a decent search engine after burning hundreds of millions of dollars how can anyone else? Probable but difficult.

knoffs




msg:3546925
 1:23 am on Jan 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

sounds very nice to me,
thank you for the info!

skweb




msg:3547160
 3:13 pm on Jan 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

Isn't it true that all the critics have trashed the search engine and the founders are in defensive mode?

lammert




msg:3547179
 3:41 pm on Jan 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

Isn't it true that all the critics have trashed the search engine and the founders are in defensive mode?

That may be the case, but the current SERPs give reason for that. I remember the old days when Altavista, Lycos and Excite were the search engines I used. At that time I was used to at least 5 adult listings in every top 10 search. Google came silently and offered SERPs where every time 9 out of 10 listings where relevant to the search query.

Now Wikia is in the oposit position. The current SERPs of the three big engines Google, Yahoo and Live are most of the time relevant to the search query (not always optimal, but surely better than the SERPs 10 years ago), and Wikia offers something which is obviously lower in quality than the three big engines now. It isn't that they can't improve to a point where their results are acceptable, but the only search engine I have seen rising from nothing to something is Google, which through an alternative way of examining the content on the internet (i.e. looking at page interlinking rather than page content alone) made a giant step in relevance right from the start. Wikia just seems to dial a little bit on the Nutch control knobs and that is all. Nothing revolutionary, nothing new, nothing that will ever give them a chance to compete with the current established search engines.

Lord Majestic




msg:3547182
 3:45 pm on Jan 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

Most of the critical comments in the press comes from people who have nothing to do with search engine building, ie TechCrunch.

Personally I declared my "bias" upfront in this thread.

lammert




msg:3547196
 4:09 pm on Jan 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

You don't have to be in the search engine building activity to have comments on the results. If a carpenter repairs a door in my house and it is not well done, I am allowed to give comments on the results, even though I wouldn't be able to do it better. But I know from experience that it Could be done better.

The same for search engines. SE's are there for searchers, and searchers (i.e. almost the total internet community) have enough experience with other search engines to decide if the quality of Wikia matches their expectations and they are therefore qualified to comment.

jmccormac




msg:3547553
 7:24 am on Jan 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

There is only one important rule in the search engine business: whomever has the best results wins.

At the moment Search Wikia's index is supposed to be a proof of concept index. If it does not produce relevant results for user queries then it does not offer users any incentive to switch engines. The Social Networking aspect seems a bit 2006 but it could offer some refinement to the process.

There are threads in the Alternative Search Engines forum where people who thought that their search engine was going to change the status quo. Some of them used Nutch and I don't think that many lasted longer than a year or so. Search Wikia has until its funding runs out to produce something usable - that might make the difference. But what's to stop the major players from implementing some similar kind of SERP voting or social networking?

Regards...jmcc

Morgenhund




msg:3547773
 2:58 pm on Jan 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hey, give the boys a little support :-)

Actually, it's pretty messed up.

What I actually liked -- protos of people related to the seaarch term (however, why empty images? uninspiring).

Otherwise, an interesting attempt to get a niche in a big business.

Lord Majestic




msg:3547783
 3:17 pm on Jan 14, 2008 (gmt 0)

What I actually liked -- protos of people related to the seaarch term (however, why empty images? uninspiring).

Would you have liked it if someone put a very ugly photo to appear on top of searches for your name? I am not sure I would (unless it is my ugly photo), not someone else playing up the system that can be done very easily.

jmccormac




msg:3567401
 4:15 am on Feb 6, 2008 (gmt 0)

I wonder how the Microsoft/Yahoo merger will impact on Search Wikia? I think that there were some figures being thrown around that SW could get 5% of the search market. Microsoft had 5% of of the US search market and Ask.com had around 4% of the US search market in December. That's roughly 123 queries a second for Ask.com.

So what do people think of SW's future now?

Regards...jmcc

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