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$100 / day or it's all over
jleane

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Msg#: 3574227 posted 9:20 pm on Feb 13, 2008 (gmt 0)

I'm 22 years old, a part time college student, and I live with a few awesome friends in a shared house. For the first time in a long while, I'm happy. Life is good - but not for long. Unfortunately, due to my extreme lazyness (compounded with some rather 'questionable' purchases), I am pretty much flat broke. I've done the sums, and in 3 months I will have a net worth pretty much on par with a cashew nut. Unless I'm able to start bringing in roughly $100/day by some time around my 23rd birthday (9th May), I will be forced to make one of two decisions, both of which will utterly annhialate my already fragile self esteem. These are:

1. Move back in with parents
2. Get a job at burger king

Now, you might be thinking to yourself that, while not particularly appealing, niether of these options is really all that terrible. And you would be wrong. I won't go into why this is the case at this point, but for now it should suffice to say that I would rather sell my body to complete strangers. And before anyone tells me to just go ahead and do that, I'm far too ugly to make anywhere even close to $100 a day, so don't bother.

Believe it or not, the mere thought of either of these things is enough to get the hair on the back of my neck to stand up on end, and as the complete financial meltdown gets closer, my psychological state is deteriorating ever more rapidly. Whilst only a few days ago I could push the thoughts of impending doom to the back of my mind, now I wake up with cold sweats on a regular basis. Yesterday my girlfriend told me I started hysterically screaming 'do you want fries with that?' and 'you can upsize that for 70 cents' at random intervals throughout the night.

To save my sanity and avoid emotional castration, I had to come up with a plan. Unfortunately, as well as being lazy, I'm also not the sharpest tool in the shed, so my plan is really not all that good. Basically, it goes something like this:

Step 1: Start up a website
Step 2: Find a related affiliate/advertising partner
Step 3: Get hits and sell stuff
Step 4: Bring in $100/day on a regular basis within 3 months time.
Step 5: Avoid asylum

So yeah.. that's, uh, pretty much the master plan...

Now I assume at this stage most of you are either shaking your head or laughing at me (or a combination of the two).

You're perfectly justified in doing so, but I'm still going to try. Although the odds are stacked against me, I do have a few factors working in my favour.

First, I've got lots of time on my hands. Theoretically, I could work 8-10 hours a day for the next 3 months on this.

Second, I've got reasonable web design skills. While I don't have any official qualifications, I'm decent at HTML and Photoshop, so I can at least create semi-professional looking sites.

Third, I've got about $400 that I can use as a marketing budget - pretty much what's left of my savings after I budget for 3 months of rent, food & misc. expenses.

Fourth, I have a basic understanding of affiliate marketing and SEO, since I occasionally read WW when I see something interesting.

And finally, I really, really, really don't want to move back home or work at burger king.

Now the purpose of this thread is to doccument my quest. Every day I will post a status report that details what I have done as well as how much money I have brought in. I'll also write a breif reflection on anything I've learned, and probably rant on about various unrelated things as my emotional state continues to deteriorate.

I hope you come along for the ride and whether I succeed or fail I'm sure it will be quite entertaining and I hope that you'll leave me a little tip, some encouragement or a scrap of advice once in a while.

Day 1 of 90 starts tomorrow - I hope to see you then.

Jonathan

 

vincevincevince

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Msg#: 3574227 posted 11:30 am on Feb 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

I reckon you need to do 5 on 2 off pattern.

Work 18+ hour days for five days, constant coffee / cola / dew, get some high-energy music pumping through your headset. Cut off messengers, block your favourite websites in the HOSTS file, unplug the phone.

Next two days, rest, sleep, do no work, enjoy some beer.

Back to the 5 days again. You should be able to last 90 days with that cycle and get to your financial targets. Probably overshoot significantly if you stick to the cycle and the hours.

If you find yourself wasting time, the moment you realise it, stand up, down a cup of black coffee, write a new article.

jchampliaud

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 12:13 pm on Feb 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

Still no adsense, so no income

My suggestion is put AdSense up now and starting tracking though channels. One key to your successes is finding what type of content converts and what type doesnít.

One other suggestion, along with giving us up dates (thanks I find it very interesting) create another blog about your quest. Could be a money maker! Sure itís completive but the more content/blogs you have the more chance to reach your goal.

Jane_Doe

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Msg#: 3574227 posted 4:31 pm on Feb 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

One key to your successes is finding what type of content converts and what type doesnít.

That is really a key step. So many people here just add articles en mass and then wonder why they get smart priced. If you are using Adsense, you really have to track which topics make money. Every new article I write I put up initially without any external links and see if it can get traffic on its own and if so, how much it makes per day.

The best topics are ones no one else knows make money, don't need any external links (if you add them to a site that already has a good set of backlinks) and make a decent return based on the time it takes to write them.

[edited by: Jane_Doe at 4:54 pm (utc) on Feb. 15, 2008]

jleane

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 11:19 pm on Feb 15, 2008 (gmt 0)

Day 3

Well I went ahead and got my WP theme coded up. I know it's money that could probably be better spent elsewhere, but the site is looking brilliant, professional and vibrant and I'm in the process of convincing myself that it will make all the difference in building links and attracting visitors.

Speaking of money, the maxim 'you get what you pay for' is nauseatingly true. I posted a PSD to Wordpress conversion project on elance and got bids ranging from $200-$350, but instead I went with a $45 offer that I got on some dodgy forum. Although the result approximated my initial design to some extent, it was nowhere near a perfect conversion, and full of bugs to boot. I just spent around 11 hours making things right and it has now been roughly 26 hours since I last slept.

On the bright side, I've found 4 writers who seem like they are capable of producing quality content, and 3 of them have personal experience with fighting credit card debt and living frugally, so I have high hopes. As for their rates - one is offering 1 cent per word, two are offering 2 cents per word, and the last guy is offering 4 cents per word, though judging by his portfolio he's a very talented writer (in my opinion) and well worth the money.

Vince: 90 hours a week for 12 weeks - yikes. Would you recommend I just pump out one article after the other and put them on my blog or should I also spend time trying to score links from other webmasters? By the way, any idea on the optimal proportion of articles I should be uploading to the directories (relative to how many I write for my blog)?

jchampliaud: You're right, I might as well get a blog of these posts going at one of the free blogging sites. Certainly can't hurt.

jchampliaud and Jane: I'll do the adsense asap. When you say tracking through channels, do you mean I should set up a different channel for every article, or just for every category of article?

Thanks again to everyone who replied so far, please keep them coming!

Jonathan

EDIT: Fixed spelling mistakes.. need to sleep!

thecleaner

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 3:07 am on Feb 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

jleane, You strike me as someone who has great comunication skills. If you can get the laziness part under control I think you can actually make some real money.

I used to wash dishes for 6.00 an hour. Now, I can honestly say I have been self employed online for almost 3 years now. I didnt even graduate high school.

What I did do however is study my butt of learning everything at this forum many others and I practiced until I got here. It didn't take me ut about 6 months to start seeing the potential and make some real money. But I worked about 8 hours a day. Of course much of that time was simply spent refreshing my clickbank account numbers. lol

The fact is, I love this online marketing stuff. And that probably has a lot to do with why I am where I am. You must love what you do if you are going to last when the times get hard. You will be tested and if you aren't passionate about this then the grass will start looking greener on the other side and you will start looking for other ways to make money until of course, you either get burned out on that as well or until you eventually find your passion.

Don't get caught up in this vicious cycle.

Here is my suggestion.

Use the communication skills you ALREADY have and Get a SALES position selling cars. If you're good, in some states you can make 5-10k a month doing this.

Use this as your rock to fall back on.

While you are working this job saving up a fat wad of cash, learn everything you can about writing sales copy online or via mail order.

You already have a head start at sales copy because you can communicate well.

Then start pumping out your own product-line or get involved with some joint ventures writing copy.

If you have GOOD mentors and stick the information at this forum I think you can be where you want to be in less than a year.

Sound like a log time? Well heres the problem with your little 100.00/day venture. Its not how MUCH you want to make its how good you are at making it.

Simply put, either you are there are you are not. Either you got it or you dont and if you DO have what it takes (after trial and error) then you can make what you CHOSE to make online.

My point is the people making 100/day online have the ability to make 1k a day or even 2-3k if they CHOSE and thats why they are where they are. They live and breath this stuff.

Now you have to ask yourself. Are you PASSIONATE? Are you REALLY lazy? How bad do you want it?

You seem like a person of sound mind. I really do hope this works out for you. After reading your post I really do think you have what it takes IF you really want it.

good luck

jchampliaud

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 6:29 am on Feb 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

When you say tracking through channels, do you mean I should set up a different channel for every article, or just for every category of article?

If possible I'd do both. The more tracking you can do the better. But in the beginning you might want/need to spend more time creating content. The way things worked for me was, I created a site of about 1000 pages and was then able to spin off some pages that did well in the SE/AdSense/Affiliates and create other sites. Side note: What I discovered was size didnít matter much once a site gets over 50 of so pages in my niche. There seems to be a diminishing effect to some extent.

About those writers, are their prices for original content?

ronin

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 12:43 pm on Feb 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

I've found 4 writers who seem like they are capable of producing quality content

jleane, you've already demonstrated that you are both articulate and witty and eminently capable of writing yourself. My advice at this point, given your limited budget, is do not pay any third party writer any money which your site hasn't already generated.

Thus, if your 4 cent per word writer wants $24 for a 600 word article, wait until your site has pulled in $24 before you take him on to write an article.

Investing in your website only from funds your site has already generated will put you on an even keel and ensure that you are concentrating on developing the parts of your site which actually work (rather than the parts of your site which you like the most and imagine will start working at some point).

onlineleben

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 3:57 pm on Feb 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Cut off messengers, block your favourite websites in the HOSTS file, unplug the phone.

Best idea I have seen here sofar.
Should follow this myself sometime ...

onlineleben

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 4:06 pm on Feb 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Would you recommend I just pump out one article after the other and put them on my blog or should I also spend time trying to score links from other webmasters?

Don't know how to do it as I don't have a blog, but I know of someone who writes lots of articles/entries for his blog in advance and posts them kind of automatically (changing timestamps I believe).
Anyway - get going man - be productive.

King_Fisher

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 6:46 pm on Feb 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Why dont you scrap the web site/blog stuff and think about writing scripts for

comedy format tv shows. You seem to have a way with words that would be very

successful! (also it would pay a hell of lot better than the average website!)

...KF

ronin

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 6:57 pm on Feb 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Because, for offline writers, rejection is the norm and rejection sucks?

Also because, for offline writers, once a piece is submitted, most of the time you don't even own the copyright anymore.

And, if you didn't manage to negotiate royalties, you're only going to get paid for it once.

For anyone who works as a freelance writer, writing for the web is hands down the best option.

IMHO.

jleane

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 10:46 pm on Feb 16, 2008 (gmt 0)

Big thanks to all of you for the comments!

TheCleaner - Your post was really inspiring and I know all too well about the 'vicous cycle' you described. That was actually my primary reason for starting this thread in the first place - I find all the feedback I'm getting to be really motivating and whenever I'm feeling a little down (a little worrying, since it's only been several days since I started!) I re-read some of the posts here and am totally recharged. You'll notice I actually joined WW in 2002 (I was 17 at the time and had just finished school) because I had big dreams of becoming an internet entrepreneur. Unfortunately when I had not made my first million after a week or two of effort, I simply threw in the towel. Not this time!

As for the car sales idea - to be honest, I think I'd absolutely suck at it - I'm quite a shy person around people who I don't know, which is probably why earning a living online appeals to me so much. As for 'how much do I want it' - I guess only time will tell.

jchampliaud - I'll do that, thanks. About the diminishing returns - would you recommend a certain number of new articles per day, or is it a case of 'the more the better'?

And yep, that's for original content. I'll probably copyscape everything they send me, but I trust them for some reason.

Ronin - that's good advice and it makes perfect logical sense. The thing is though, if I have someone working with me on the blog, I know I'll be more committed.

Onlineleben - will do! Please feel free to give me a proverbial kick in the arse whenever it seems like I might be slacking off :)

Kingfisher - Really? I don't have any formal writing qualifications and I agree with Ronin - rejection sucks. But yeah, writing comedy scripts would be a dream job. It's something I'd love to try when I'm in a better place financially, but for now it's just not realistic.

[edited by: eljefe3 at 6:48 am (utc) on Feb. 17, 2008]

scottwal

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 4:25 am on Feb 17, 2008 (gmt 0)


Use the communication skills you ALREADY have and Get a SALES position selling cars. If you're good, in some states you can make 5-10k a month doing this.

I am not of the same thinking as the cleaner. I am a true believer in going for broke. It is only pressure, lack of money, inability to pay bills etc...., that gives us the push and drive to truly succeed. Do your one thing, and learn to do it well.

(The jack of all trades never gets paid well, the master of one always commands a high price)

good luck with it... and never give up.

vincevincevince

WebmasterWorld Senior Member vincevincevince us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 5:11 am on Feb 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

It is only pressure, lack of money, inability to pay bills etc...., that gives us the push and drive to truly succeed.

If a lack of money is the reason you work, then you can look forward to losing motivation the moment you start making money sufficient to pay your bills. You need to be motivated by passion and a love for your work because that will keep you going even after you're comfortable financially.

ronin

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 11:50 am on Feb 17, 2008 (gmt 0)

That's true, but in my case it was lack of money and having to endure a very uncomfortable financial situation which gave me the motivation to think radically beyond how I might eventually end up doing my dream job in ten years time and to actually get started.

The discomfort of experiencing genuine poverty (coupled with my distaste for the jobs I was picking up through the temping agencies and my refusal to go and sign on) was probably the real kick up the butt I needed to "Ready, Fire, Aim" rather than "Ready, Aim, Fire" - which is what most people spend most of their lives doing.

I sense jleane is experiencing something of this right now.

Bottom Line: Yes, of necessity, passion must be the motor. But sometimes financial hardship can be the spark plugs.

davewray

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 3:54 am on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Why do you need to make $100/day when you've calculated that you can live off $65/day?

And, at $45/day for rent...that equals $1350/month?! You said you live with a bunch of roommates..are they not sharing in the rent? And, if they are, are you living in a mansion? REDUCE rent, which will essentially extend the timeline for you to reach $100/day...

$100/day is doable in 3 months. But, if you adopt a defeatist attitude right off the bat by saying "good luck" then you are not starting off on the right foot. If you believe you can, or cannot, then you are probably right.

You do Not need a professional looking site. Hire someone from India to throw up a $30 website...it'll look nice, but no pretentious. Simple sells..pretty does not.

For the first two weeks of your "experiment", read until your eyes bleed. Depending on what you are targetting (blogs it seems)...read EVERYthing you can about creating a blog, monetizing a blog, and promoting a blog. If you pick the right subject I don't see how you can't make $100/day after three months.

First, you have to believe in yourself....and, you are allowed to be lazy sometimes...we all are. And those that say they NEVER procrastinate are lying, or need medical help.

Keep us posted...but most of all...say this, "I know I can, I know I can, I know I can"....etc.

davewray

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 4:44 am on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Just had another thought....

Write a press release, title it like this:

"Struggling College student shows how it's possible to go from $0/day to $100/day in online income"!

"Don't want to flip burgers for a living? College student shows how to make $100/day on limited budget!"

Man, that would get some press to your blog, I bet :)

Free word of mouth advertising is the best kind there is ;)

Photocopy 100 fliers and post them around campus...Put something like "Struggling to live on a budget? Want ideas to make more money? Come check out my blog at: ...."

Bingo....

bluebobbo

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 6:46 am on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

With just a "basic" understanding of SEO, you're screwed.

Do what you need to do to live. We've all been there.

Marcia

WebmasterWorld Senior Member marcia us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 7:11 am on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

"Struggling College student shows how it's possible to go from $0/day to $100/day in online income"!

"Don't want to flip burgers for a living? College student shows how to make $100/day on limited budget!"


First this college student needs to be making $100 a day, or at least starting out with $1 a day, to be able to tell how.

Man, that would get some press to your blog, I bet

Dave, I haven't seen any Clickbank ebook squeeze pages featured in the NY Times lately. I try to keep up with Yahoo & Google news coverage, have I been missing them?

Photocopy 100 fliers and post them around campus...Put something like "Struggling to live on a budget? Want ideas to make more money? Come check out my blog at: ...."

Aha! And where will the ideas come from? From personal experience, or by scraping the ideas in this thread and doing rewrites?

j/k of course, but it does have a ring of reality to it. ;)

vik_c

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 1:16 pm on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

You do Not need a professional qlooking site. Hire someone from India to throw up a $30 website...it'll look nice, but no pretentious. Simple sells..pretty does not.

It's IMPOSSIBLE to get a website made for $30 from an Indian webmaster. There is so much misinformation going around about India that I'm tempted to write another long post about how expensive it really is here. Meanwhile do read my post of three years ago. [webmasterworld.com ]. I believe the dollar was going for 47 Rs then, it's at 39 Rs now. The most expensive piece of real estate in Mumbai was $800/ foot then, it now is $2500/ ft.

johnnie

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 2:34 pm on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

So what's wrong with Burger King? I guess you can eat free whoppers during your break, which will save you some food spending!

jleane

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 4:53 pm on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Hi, aplogies for missing my daily posting yesterday but unfortunately I've been asked to limit myself to an update every fortnight.

I've taken jchampliaud's advice and created a blog specifically for this quest that I'll continue to update on a daily basis, but I'm afraid there will no more news in this thread until the end of February.

Thanks,

Jonathan

ergophobe

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Msg#: 3574227 posted 7:03 pm on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

>>Man, that would get some press to your blog, I bet

Worked for Jennifer Laycock, though she never came close to $100/day with her 90-day experiment.

Jane_Doe

WebmasterWorld Senior Member jane_doe us a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 9:42 pm on Feb 18, 2008 (gmt 0)

Struggling College student shows how it's possible to go from $0/day to $100/day in online income

Everyone has their own ways to make money online, but I think it is easier to target niche topics that a million other people are not writing about.

davewray

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 6:04 am on Feb 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

Vik_C...No offense, but I have personal experience in hiring web "designers" from India who will develop one page for approximately that much. If you need a 10/100 page site, of course it will cost more.

Marcia...Regarding the Yahoo/Google news feeds..perhaps you've not been searching on the correct keywords? ;)

Marcia

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Msg#: 3574227 posted 6:23 am on Feb 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

>>not been searching on the correct keywords?

Probably not, Dave. I'm not much on searching for "get rich quick." My life has been one long story of "by the sweat of the brow."

vik_c

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 7:04 pm on Feb 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

Vik_C...No offense, but I have personal experience in hiring web "designers" from India who will develop one page for approximately that much. If you need a 10/100 page site, of course it will cost more.

I thought you meant a website. I know web designers in the United States who make landing pages for $50. So I wouldn't dispute the $30 figure for a single page, at all!

ThePaul

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 8:14 pm on Feb 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

Scrap the personal finance blog idea.

I read through this entire post for one reason. I like your wit and writing style.

You need to create a site about creating a site to make money.

In other words, turn the idea behind this thread into your site.

Port your WP theme to drupal and create a community around your efforts. Have forums where people in similar situations can come talk about how they are trying to make a living on the web (note: they are failing). Go all the way with the Web 2.0 cliche, buddy lists, groups, user blogs, newsletter.. etc etc... We are building a community of slackers just like you .. only you are the smart one who is cashing in on it.

Create a daily video-cast detailing your struggle. Do not hide the fact that your whole reason behind creating the website/community/project is to make money to pay your bills.

It's this kind of scheme that gets bloggers on CNN and the nightly news ... not just another "Personal finance blog" trying to skim money from the pockets of adwords publishers.

Jane_Doe

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Msg#: 3574227 posted 8:41 pm on Feb 19, 2008 (gmt 0)

We are building a community of slackers just like you .. only you are the smart one who is cashing in on it.

There are tons of site already like this on the web. It's nothing unique.

ronin

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 12:47 am on Feb 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

You need to create a site about creating a site to make money.

Actually, that's the last thing you need to do. The first thing you need to do is actually create a site that makes money. Only then can you think about the suggestion above. (Only by that point, you probably won't be interested in it any more).

davewray

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3574227 posted 2:58 am on Feb 20, 2008 (gmt 0)

If you do actually "get rich quick" then that's great, but you're right Marcia...for most of us it takes many hours of toiling away :)

The beauty of the internet is that there are literally hundreds of money making models. I don't think achieving $100/day in three months time is a get rich quick scheme. Rather, it will take many long hours and days of dedication.

Keep focused on one thing. It will be tempting to try many things at once. If you stick to one thing and try to do it the best that you possibly can, that's your best chance at you achieving your goal.

As others have said, you have a unique, yet intriguing writing style. I'm sure that in itself will attract regular readers to your blog!

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