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when sales recorded in CJ
ahmeds14

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Msg#: 3446570 posted 6:19 pm on Sep 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

I have an account in cj and i promoting a product
i need to know when exactily the sale is recorded
because i'm sure that two or three people have bought the product but i didn't get any commission?
so when does it recorded? immeditily? second day? second week?!

 

tim222

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Msg#: 3446570 posted 8:39 pm on Sep 10, 2007 (gmt 0)

That's interesting to know.

In the past I used Commission Junction without any results. After tens of thousands of impressions that resulted in hundreds of clicks, I got $0 in revenue, so I finally dropped all CJ links.

A few days ago I decided to try again. I guess I figure if I keep beating my head on the same wall, eventually the wall will develop a soft spot and I will break through. Besides, some of the advertisers at CJ do have some attractive products.

But so far, after hundreds of impressions and dozens of clicks, I still have $0 in revenue over there. I'm already discouraged and it hasn't even been a week.

I think I'm going to just give up on CJ and when I do, I can just imagine them singing the dolphin song from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

"So Long and Thanks for All the Clicks!"

kingdom1688

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3446570 posted 3:55 pm on Sep 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

IS CJ so hard! I try to do it!If that is truth,i will don`t it for ever!

TrustNo1

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Msg#: 3446570 posted 3:59 pm on Sep 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

As to the first question, should show up within a couple of hours unless it's a batch merchant, then you have to check to see how often they batch.

And if you're not making money at CJ, it's not CJ, it's you. There are plenty of people making good money at CJ and other networks.

markwelch

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Msg#: 3446570 posted 4:46 pm on Sep 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Dozens of clicks? That's not enough to judge a program on.

Assuming that a merchant has a 2% conversion rate, then you'd expect to see an average of 1 sale for every 50 clicks. But that's an average, and you might have 100 or 250 clicks go by without a sale, and then 20 clicks might generate 2 sales.

I don't like CJ (for several reasons) and since last fall I won't do business with any merchant who uses CJ or LS, but the CJ system does seem to work more or less the way it's supposed to, and many webmasters get paid every month, on time. Note that some merchants may have delayed reporting, where a transaction isn't posted immediately, but generally they should post within a day or two.

There are situations where merchants do sometimes set up a program that doesn't work properly because the tracking isn't properly implemented or was "broken" by a subsequent site update, or because the merchant has some kind of internal problem.

Many folks will initiate a "test transaction" and post the results on a forum (try searching for 'merchantname test transaction'). I've done so many times, reporting many transactions that tracked and more than a few that did not properly track. In most cases, these are "real" transactions where you actually order the product or service and evaluate the company's fulfillment -- if you do this, then you can honestly "endorse" a merchant by mentioning on your site that you've bought from the company and your item(s) arrived in good condition, in NN days, etc.

tim222

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Msg#: 3446570 posted 7:12 pm on Sep 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Dozens of clicks? That's not enough to judge a program on.

When I tried it earlier in the year I had FAR more than 250 clicks and my revenue was still $0. If that's my fault, it really doesn't matter to me. The bottom line is that CJ didn't work out for me. Regardless, I see these success stories and it makes me feel like somehow it has to work. But my recent trial has been equally disappointing. So I guess CJ and my website are just not a good match.

justgowithit

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Msg#: 3446570 posted 8:17 pm on Sep 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

CJ is not involved in some big conspiracy to withhold commission. Think about it logically - the more money that you make, the more money CJ's merchants make, and ultimately the more money CJ makes. It's in their best interest to pay commission.

They have tiered commission qualifications where your commission may be in a pending status. They don't pay commission immediately because there is a chance that the customer will return the product.

tim222

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3446570 posted 9:49 pm on Sep 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

CJ is not involved in some big conspiracy to withhold commission.

If there is anything underhanded going on, I would suspect CJ the least.

But that sort of program has other more likely points of failure. Nummber one obviously is that the publisher's website might not attract the sort of traffic that will follow through with a purchase.

But another problem is that it's based on cookies. That means the visitor has to accept the cookie, retain the cookie, then return within the time limit and make the purchase.

For whatever reason, it doesn't work well with my site.

tim222

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Msg#: 3446570 posted 9:49 pm on Sep 11, 2007 (gmt 0)

Edit: (deleted text, because double click caused duplicate post).

justgowithit

10+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3446570 posted 1:43 pm on Sep 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

the publisher's website might not attract the sort of traffic that will follow through with a purchase

This is not CJ's problem.

it's based on cookies

Again, if you're counting on income from CJ's program you should have systems in place to check for cookies.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think there's such a thing as the perfect affiliate program but it's all too easy to blame the provider for inadequate income.

Diversifying affiliate programs should help to ease the issues with any one program.

iceman504

5+ Year Member



 
Msg#: 3446570 posted 9:11 pm on Sep 14, 2007 (gmt 0)

most of the cookies last about 30 days for CJ publishers...I have made a little bit of money using a cj publisher (ebay to be exact). My conversion rate was around 1/180 for one day and then after that all i had was clicks but no buying. Best way to get a sale is gain your site viewers trust and you can do this by finding articles on a specific topic, or product rewrite them in your own words so google doesn't penalize your site for duplicate content and then promote your site. So it is possible to make money with cj it just a little bit harder

Jane_Doe

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Msg#: 3446570 posted 5:01 pm on Sep 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

There are plenty of people making good money at CJ and other networks.

I have done very well with other affiliate programs, but never with CJ. I don't know why, but their stuff just doesn't seem to convert as well for me compared to the other networks or independent programs. And even in programs where I'd make some CJ sales, then I'd often get unusually high return rates.

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