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Feel like giving up
need some insperation
wiredwheeler




msg:3360661
 1:18 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

Hi, in my last post i said I had my first to commissions taken from me at Cj ...I decided to try out clickbank found what i thought would be a great market that didnt have many pple advertising on adwords ,big search results in overture suggestions.
$0.05 max bid ,260 clicks in first 6hours on adwords campaign.
used price of product in ads..
sales 0
think I am wasteing time with adwords and affiliate programs
need some insperation..
share your success, would love to hear what pple are actually making if anything..

can You help ,maybe guide me in makeing some sales, send me a msg if you can help and i will pay you % of commissions made
thanks

 

Quadrille




msg:3360709
 3:05 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

Six hours is no time at all. You simply cannot judge your market in one quarter of one day.

Be patient; look at your competitors;

Did you really pick the right market?

Is your site better than theirs?

Are your prices better than theirs?

Is your checkout smooth and easy?

Do you *demand* registration before they buy?

Is there ANYTHING about your offering that may be putting people off?

wiredwheeler




msg:3360718
 3:19 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

I realise it is a bit soon, the merchants sales page seems really good, Even made me feel like making a purchase...

I guess Im just frustrated. adwords is costin me a fortune maybe i should make my own product in the same catagory an sell it for next to nothing...

anyone else want to give advice..

thanks by the way

wiredwheeler




msg:3360868
 7:09 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

I read that if you dont make anything from 100 clicks then dont bother promoting that product...i have had over 300 and still nothing...

ska_demon




msg:3360911
 8:13 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

This is how I see it.

You thought that Adwords direct to merchant was going to be easy money?

You thought that it was just a case of picking a merchant, send them some traffic and the sales would pile up?

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Affiliates that make good money doing the Adwords - Merchant thing have been doing it for ages. They have researched their markets and tested, tested, tested. They have all probably lost a fair amount of money during this testing.

From your figures you should be getting 1000 clicks per day on Adwords?

You should really be getting at least 1% conversions (bad!) unless you picked a really high ticket item that just isn't going to sell or have chosen a market that is difficult to sell ie items that are directed at people that have no means of purchasing online.(you need a credit card to buy stuff on the web) It seems to me that you may need to re-think your campaign. You need to test and test and you will lose money until you find that thing that converts.

Let me just say, if you have found an Adwords keyword that is costing less than 5c per click you are either very lucky or nobody is bidding on that term because it doesn't convert! It seems that after 1000 clicks and 0 conversions the latter might be the case.

If you are new to the affiliate game I would recommend building actual websites around the things you want to sell and use Adwords to get people to your site for the oft mentioned 'pre sell'. You may stand more of a chance of converting sales that way.

You want inspiration - I was making between 4000 and 8000 dollars a month off 10 websites with 10 pages each before I quit. I know, I know, that's peanuts compared to some folk ;oP They were all silly little niches but each site made $10 or so per day all from organic SE results. Adwords would have been cheap but I never bothered because it was easier to get the sites ranking back in them days.

Don't think - Expensive Watches or Pianos or Diamonds or Insurance or Credit Cards.
Think - Bonsai Trees or Umbrellas or Kitchen Dustbins or No Smoking signs.

You get the idea

Best of luck

Ska

wiredwheeler




msg:3360923
 8:52 am on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

Wow thanks ska_demon great advice.
some of what you say was right i will admit. I did however do some research and whatched some great tutorials just mustnt of been enough.
I do realise it takes some time to get going and I think i will take up your advice and go back to the web sites. until i learn more about ppc anyway..
thank you very much for your comment and great advice.

davewray




msg:3361636
 11:51 pm on Jun 7, 2007 (gmt 0)

If you give up before you give it a good, honest try, then you are doomed to failure. Sounds harsh, but it's true..sorry.

1% conversion is what you need to target. If you are not getting that with PPC direct to merchant then you are not targetting the correct keywords. It's easy to get volume of clicks, it's harder to find keywords that convert well. That's part of the testing phase. Start with VERY specific phrases first so that you get started on the right foot. Don't just go for the biggest, most generic keywords you can find because you could lose a fortune. Start with longer tail keywords, which incidentally seem to convert better anyways.

Research til your eyes hurt...then start testing...don't just throw money at the huge volume keywords hoping to make a killing :)

Wbs_Stt




msg:3362626
 2:36 am on Jun 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

Don't give up, it took me weeks of testing before I really started to turn a profit. Almost every product and merchant could be a potential winner, the more you test, the more likely you are to find them. Even with many years of experience I still only find really good success with 1 out of every 10 I try. The secret is that over time you end up with more and more winners to add to the pile. Eventually you'll have enough winners to offset 9 consecutive losers and still make money.

Last month I stumbled across a single product (out of thousands on a merchant site) that I now make $4K per month on - $6.50 at a time. :)

There's no such thing as easy money. Even the above example took me hundreds of hours of testing and reading before I found one that sweet. Keep trying and learning - you're bound to find success sooner or later.

"Mistakes are only failures if you fail to learn from them." - unknown

wiredwheeler




msg:3362718
 8:09 am on Jun 9, 2007 (gmt 0)

You guys are the greatest, this is the insperation and incouragement I need.
I am using keyword lite program and yeah I have been researching till my eyes pop out....seriously..
but I am going to keep at it I dont really want to give up jsut needed a kick int the butt..

I would really like a mentor or someone to help me get that sale...as an affiliate..msg me if your keen..

thanks again means a lot to me people..

ccDan




msg:3365761
 8:49 pm on Jun 12, 2007 (gmt 0)

used price of product in ads..

Try not doing that. I did that at first, figuring it would weed out people looking for freebies.

Tried it without the price, and that increased conversions.

I read that if you dont make anything from 100 clicks then dont bother promoting that product...i have had over 300 and still nothing...

I give it 200 clicks. If I don't have a minimum of 4 sales out of 200 clicks, then I rewrite the ad or drop it.

workingNOMAD




msg:3369400
 10:55 am on Jun 16, 2007 (gmt 0)

I would suggest you give up as you are clearly not cut out for this.

koncept




msg:3369967
 7:28 am on Jun 17, 2007 (gmt 0)

...how inspiring.

The number of clicks you need to receive before calling it a day is not so cut and dry. If the clicks are supa-cheap and the product pays big then it's a different story, right? You don't need 4 sales in 200.
What you need is a good ROI.

P.S. I second the motion for creating your own site. It's a good learning experience.

skibum




msg:3370650
 5:10 am on Jun 18, 2007 (gmt 0)

It can definitely be done. It can take years to find the nuggets that spit out cash day after day and the right way to set everything up. When you do it doesn't take to much work. Test keywords, test creative, test match types, test everything.

After a while you start to recognize patterns, products, site structures, product sorting abilities and other things that make a site convert the traffic you send.

Pick keywords that indicate the person is ready to buy and has done some research or find niche products/services where there are few competitors then fire up an unlimited budget when you find a winner.

It seems like it would be an expensive endeavor to try to start doing this now.

inameone




msg:3386626
 4:40 am on Jul 5, 2007 (gmt 0)
i think you can find another better one.
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